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Do you think riding a horse in a state of no collection, or a state of false collection (forced by pain i.e bit) bad for the horses health??
FELIX
Do you think riding a horse in a state of no collection, or a state of false collection (forced by pain i.e bit) bad for the horses health??
FELIX
Tags: Horses Health, Riding A Horse
I think that if your horse is in his natural frame… aka, very little rein pressure, then he is fine… That is how he would go about in the wild… However yes it is bad both mentally, and physically for the horse to force him into a frame!
with a horse in NO state of collection, it is not bad for the horses back. its natural.
with a FALSE one, i assume it might be. but im not 100% sure. but it would be bad for the horses mouth, and deffinatley wouldnt be good for thier neck muscles. and would be hard on the forhand and the hind end because of the weight transfer
hope i helped
I think a lot of times pain or bad riding is the cause of the lack of collection, rather than the other way around.
A horse moving uncollected may do so for several reasons. If he’s moving in his natural rhythm with no interference from the rider, that’s what’s easiest for him–and it’s not hurting him. However, often a horse that is moving badly (and really uncollected) is doing so because of a bad rider–specifically one bouncing around on his back. That can stress his back and muscles and make him sore, but it’s the rider that causes that issue and not the lack of collection itself.
Collection makes it easier for a horse to do most of the tasks we ask them, so he’s more likely to be able to use his muscles appropriately if he’s collected correctly. In that case, yes, it is better for him physically if he is collected (i.e., engaged, balanced, rhythmic–not necessarily upper level dressage collection).
I think if you see the no/false collection, you’re really looking at no/false riding skills or other issues–and the cause of the lack of collection could cause physical (or other) problems. Does that make sense?
I wouldn’t say it’s bad for their health. It’s bad for training and conditioning though. Riding with no collection is better than false collection. If you don’t know how to properly collect then just don’t attempt it. But if you do then it’s good for the horse. A frame is a form of collection…it’s indirectly collection. Having a horse on the bit(in a frame)brings the hind quarters under the horse and lifts the back and is a very athletic way of being ridden. It allows for impulsion to manifest and it’s athletic because the horse is using their hind end to propel themselves forward and not just drag themselves along with their front end. But traveling with false collection can be many things, it can be as simple as the slowing of the tempo which isn’t that bad or it can be incorrectly putting the horse in a frame by pulling their head down and not lifting their back because of the lack of leg aid from the rider(or the horse could be lazy-dead to your leg-thats why I don’t like to ride lazy horses)and this will pull the head down and cause a eue neck which is back conditioning and conformation will form and weak muscles in the back because it will be hollow and this CAN cause them to be cold backed and not want to be mounted or have a saddle put on them because it hurts. But keep in mind this is just of you have your horse in an oncorrect frame. If you are just slowing the tempo thinking its collection then that isn’t really a bad thing.